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		<title>By: Per Ola d'Aulaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per Ola d'Aulaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fred,

I didn&#039;t write this, but wow....The fact that the two are even compared to each other shows the power of spin. 

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I&#039;m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight..... If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you&#039;re &quot;exotic, different.&quot;
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

If your name is Barack you&#039;re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.  Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you&#039;re a maverick.

Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you&#039;re well grounded.

If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate&#039;s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran&#039;s Affairs committees, you don&#039;t have any real leadership experience.  
 
 If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you&#039;re qualified to become the country&#039;s second highest  ranking executive.

If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while   raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you&#039;re not a real Christian.

If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,    you&#039;re a Christian.

If you teach teach children about sexual predators, you are irresponsible and eroding the fiber of society.  If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state&#039;s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you&#039;re very responsible.

If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family&#039;s values don&#039;t represent America &#039;s.

If you&#039;re husband is nicknamed &quot;First Dude&quot;, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn&#039;t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that hates America and advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.
 
 OK, I&#039;m  much clearer now.

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Ola</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fred,</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t write this, but wow&#8230;.The fact that the two are even compared to each other shows the power of spin. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight&#8230;.. If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you&#8217;re &#8220;exotic, different.&#8221;<br />
Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.</p>
<p>If your name is Barack you&#8217;re a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.  Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you&#8217;re a maverick.</p>
<p>Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable. Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you&#8217;re well grounded.</p>
<p>If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate&#8217;s Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a state of 13<br />
million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran&#8217;s Affairs committees, you don&#8217;t have any real leadership experience.  </p>
<p> If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you&#8217;re qualified to become the country&#8217;s second highest  ranking executive.</p>
<p>If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while   raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you&#8217;re not a real Christian.</p>
<p>If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month,    you&#8217;re a Christian.</p>
<p>If you teach teach children about sexual predators, you are irresponsible and eroding the fiber of society.  If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other option in sex education in your state&#8217;s school system while your unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant, you&#8217;re very responsible.</p>
<p>If your wife is a Harvard graduate laywer who gave up a position in a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family&#8217;s values don&#8217;t represent America &#8216;s.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re husband is nicknamed &#8220;First Dude&#8221;, with at least one DWI conviction and no college education, who didn&#8217;t register to vote until age 25 and once was a member of a group that hates America and advocated the secession of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.</p>
<p> OK, I&#8217;m  much clearer now.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Ola</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 18:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mark, I have many Republican friends, many still with their heads in the sand. None that have stated their views in anywhere near the far sighted and gut wrenching way you did. For a guy that felt he was betrayed by folks in his own party that have destroyed the principals of the political party he (or she) loves, to even think about it has to hurt alot. 

I again refer to my old Danish American Dad, he never voted Republican, but in most cases --way back then --he respected those that did.  When he said the words I have repeated here so often &quot;A Republican is the guy that runs the corner bank. Give him your money and a few years later when you take it out you have more money.&quot;  What Dad was saying that the guy was honest, he protected your money, he was a man to be respected.  I think you, --referring to the past of the party, that you are correct.  I and Dad always felt they were far too conservative, BUT, Dad and I ALWAYS respected the Republican party and those friends of ours that were Republicans, because they deserved it.  That they were too conservative for us had nothing to do with it. I think Dad would agree with you --that those running things in Washington now are not Republicans. To me they have no principals, are in it for greed, and to me are outright criminals and should be shot for the harm they have done our nation. 

I have two sons, if not for my oldest Rick, I would not be writing this. He has helped his stupid old Dad so much, when I screw up the computer he is here immediately to fix, it. Rick is a certified genius.  He almost died a few years ago of an illness he cannot recover from - still he did not sit and mope, he has made a life for himself and has always been there for me. 

My youngest son Scott, after 16 years making very good money found he had to create a new life for himself and although he is a graduate of Arizona University is back in school learning another career.  Not easy when you are over 50 years of age. Fortunately he has a wife that is helping him, anyway, Scott has always been a independant thinker. He even voted Republican a few times, I did not like it but he had good reasons.  

Sally and I did not raise kids that copy, they do think for themselves.  At any rate, I got the following from Scott this morning. I think that it is worth reading, especially his comments about Fox and his comments about how a national health care program would benefit business. That is something I never thought of --- he did. Did I say he was smarter than his old Dad?--unfortunately that may be true!

FROM SON SCOTT-
Hi Dad: I hope I&#039;m not being too pessimistic, but if the typical republican was interested in the truth he would probably already be a democrat.  I watched less than 5 minutes of FOX news, the notoriously republican biased news channel, and the blatant lies were scary. FOX was making very general comments to negate the facts about Sarah Palin&#039;s time as Alaska governor.  Typical republican crap, comments so general they contain no real information.  

On the positive side, someone in Obama&#039;s campaign is promising a big ramp up of campaigning and advertising exposing Mccain&#039;s lies and political history.  I pray it works! And a lot of crap about healthcare is swallowed by people.  They can&#039;t stand the idea of paying for someone&#039;s else&#039;s healthcare.  They don&#039;t want to know the facts, that it will be cheaper and better for everyone.  Countries that have socialized health care have longer life spans then we do.  A lower fetal death rate.  

Our health care equates to roughly $4.00/hour more expense for the American worker - we lost a new Toyota plant to Canada because of this.  And almost every year the American worker&#039;s company tells the employees that their medical will cost more.  But it doesn&#039;t sink in. Hopefully the middle class has been hurt enough to pull it&#039;s head out of it&#039;s butt, and demand change.
Love Ya, Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mark, I have many Republican friends, many still with their heads in the sand. None that have stated their views in anywhere near the far sighted and gut wrenching way you did. For a guy that felt he was betrayed by folks in his own party that have destroyed the principals of the political party he (or she) loves, to even think about it has to hurt alot. </p>
<p>I again refer to my old Danish American Dad, he never voted Republican, but in most cases &#8211;way back then &#8211;he respected those that did.  When he said the words I have repeated here so often &#8220;A Republican is the guy that runs the corner bank. Give him your money and a few years later when you take it out you have more money.&#8221;  What Dad was saying that the guy was honest, he protected your money, he was a man to be respected.  I think you, &#8211;referring to the past of the party, that you are correct.  I and Dad always felt they were far too conservative, BUT, Dad and I ALWAYS respected the Republican party and those friends of ours that were Republicans, because they deserved it.  That they were too conservative for us had nothing to do with it. I think Dad would agree with you &#8211;that those running things in Washington now are not Republicans. To me they have no principals, are in it for greed, and to me are outright criminals and should be shot for the harm they have done our nation. </p>
<p>I have two sons, if not for my oldest Rick, I would not be writing this. He has helped his stupid old Dad so much, when I screw up the computer he is here immediately to fix, it. Rick is a certified genius.  He almost died a few years ago of an illness he cannot recover from &#8211; still he did not sit and mope, he has made a life for himself and has always been there for me. </p>
<p>My youngest son Scott, after 16 years making very good money found he had to create a new life for himself and although he is a graduate of Arizona University is back in school learning another career.  Not easy when you are over 50 years of age. Fortunately he has a wife that is helping him, anyway, Scott has always been a independant thinker. He even voted Republican a few times, I did not like it but he had good reasons.  </p>
<p>Sally and I did not raise kids that copy, they do think for themselves.  At any rate, I got the following from Scott this morning. I think that it is worth reading, especially his comments about Fox and his comments about how a national health care program would benefit business. That is something I never thought of &#8212; he did. Did I say he was smarter than his old Dad?&#8211;unfortunately that may be true!</p>
<p>FROM SON SCOTT-<br />
Hi Dad: I hope I&#8217;m not being too pessimistic, but if the typical republican was interested in the truth he would probably already be a democrat.  I watched less than 5 minutes of FOX news, the notoriously republican biased news channel, and the blatant lies were scary. FOX was making very general comments to negate the facts about Sarah Palin&#8217;s time as Alaska governor.  Typical republican crap, comments so general they contain no real information.  </p>
<p>On the positive side, someone in Obama&#8217;s campaign is promising a big ramp up of campaigning and advertising exposing Mccain&#8217;s lies and political history.  I pray it works! And a lot of crap about healthcare is swallowed by people.  They can&#8217;t stand the idea of paying for someone&#8217;s else&#8217;s healthcare.  They don&#8217;t want to know the facts, that it will be cheaper and better for everyone.  Countries that have socialized health care have longer life spans then we do.  A lower fetal death rate.  </p>
<p>Our health care equates to roughly $4.00/hour more expense for the American worker &#8211; we lost a new Toyota plant to Canada because of this.  And almost every year the American worker&#8217;s company tells the employees that their medical will cost more.  But it doesn&#8217;t sink in. Hopefully the middle class has been hurt enough to pull it&#8217;s head out of it&#8217;s butt, and demand change.<br />
Love Ya, Scott</p>
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		<title>By: mark salerno</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark salerno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Uncle Fred,I have been a Republican for the last 28 years.I felt Reagan was a great man,and at one time we had a great party,As the years rolled by,I felt less and less comfortable,much less enthusiastic about my party.They had  fewer ideas and no solutions.All they did was gay-bash-as if the vast majority of those folks are any threat-and question other people&#039;s patriotism.Instead of offering anything real to the American middle class,they preyed on the ignorant and ill informed,telling folks the democrats would take their guns,staff their schools with atheistics and gays,etc.I guess what kept me in their camp the last few years was the awfullness of the American far left and the front and center status the Dem&#039;s accorded them.Sitting a person like Michael Moore in VIP seats at Kerry&#039;s speeches was not a good idea and made Karl Roves job so easy.Now however,we are at a crisis point so serious,every person has to evaluate what they believe and why.My former party has disgraced itself,and dishonored the legacy of Reagan,Lincoln,and Eisenhower.I do not believe the American middle class can survive another 4 or 8 years of Republican indifference and neglect.We need to radically change direction,with deficits,health care,energy policy,ALL our foriegn policy-everything.I am ashamed of Mcain-Palins campaign.Lets give Obama a chance to set things right.It really hurts me to say this,but the party I believed in and was once so proud of deserves to dissapear.As presently constituted,it offers nothing,believes in nothing,and stands for less.Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Uncle Fred,I have been a Republican for the last 28 years.I felt Reagan was a great man,and at one time we had a great party,As the years rolled by,I felt less and less comfortable,much less enthusiastic about my party.They had  fewer ideas and no solutions.All they did was gay-bash-as if the vast majority of those folks are any threat-and question other people&#8217;s patriotism.Instead of offering anything real to the American middle class,they preyed on the ignorant and ill informed,telling folks the democrats would take their guns,staff their schools with atheistics and gays,etc.I guess what kept me in their camp the last few years was the awfullness of the American far left and the front and center status the Dem&#8217;s accorded them.Sitting a person like Michael Moore in VIP seats at Kerry&#8217;s speeches was not a good idea and made Karl Roves job so easy.Now however,we are at a crisis point so serious,every person has to evaluate what they believe and why.My former party has disgraced itself,and dishonored the legacy of Reagan,Lincoln,and Eisenhower.I do not believe the American middle class can survive another 4 or 8 years of Republican indifference and neglect.We need to radically change direction,with deficits,health care,energy policy,ALL our foriegn policy-everything.I am ashamed of Mcain-Palins campaign.Lets give Obama a chance to set things right.It really hurts me to say this,but the party I believed in and was once so proud of deserves to dissapear.As presently constituted,it offers nothing,believes in nothing,and stands for less.Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who fact checks FactCheck.ORG?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who fact checks FactCheck.ORG?</p>
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